23RD MESSAGE – AUGUST 15, 1950

August 15, 1950 by Ida Peerdeman

The East

I see a figure from the East standing before me, dressed in a long garment and wearing a cloth around his head. He bows three times, with his arms folded and the palms of his hands turned downward. After that his arms are moved apart and then he makes the same bow, but with his palms turned upward.

Then I see all kinds of strange signs, such as little curves, dashes, dots and a kind of letter like our ‘J’, then again various separate signs. It seems to me a kind of language. Next I see a wall; the wall winds downward; it seems to come down a mountain. All of this causes me excruciating pain.


Suddenly I see a beast before me––a symbolic beast––which is unfamiliar to us. After that I see crabs and big starfish. Next I see an island before me. I am given to understand: that is Formosa. A smaller island lies further down. Then I have to push something up from the left and make a swooping action over the island. And I hear the words,
“America, take warning here!”

I feel that something is to happen on that island.

Politico-Christian struggle

After this I have to fold my hands, and I look upward to the left. I see the Lady and hear her say,
“This is the era of politico-Christian struggle. I have already said this several times. Great events are now coming to a climax. The chaos I spoke of has set in. The disasters have come, governments have resigned, and others will follow. Note well, child, the struggle is beginning now. I am showing you these four fingers and making a circle around them.
A prince will reign, very briefly and powerfully. You will not see it in your limited circle.”

A new spirit

Then the Lady says,

While standing beside her, I suddenly see beasts placing themselves before her.
the Lady says again, and now I see a wolf standing before her on the left. Then a wolf or a dog, holding a torch in its mouth, comes and stands directly in front of her.
A lioness appears beside it, and on the extreme right a large eagle appears before her.
the Lady says again. Now she points upward and I see a white dove. The Lady says,
“This is a new spirit that is to come.”

Then I see rays coming forth from the dove; they go downward: two rays in the middle, two rays to the right, and two rays to the left. The Lady says,
“You will understand what this means later.”

After that I again see the Lady with those beasts and the dove. Now many stars appear all around them.

East and West

After that it is as if the Lady takes a step down, and she says,

Now it is as if we come to a large plateau, and we stop in the middle. Then the Lady says,
“Do you see this?”

She points from east to west. Then she stretches out her arms very wide, and it is as if she places two walls on the plateau, facing each other. She extends those walls over a long distance. Suddenly the Lady stands, so to speak, above this, and she says to me,
“That is nothing.”

And she points to the East and the West. Then she stretches out her arms and makes a fist, first with her right hand, then with her left. Then she says,
“Listen carefully to how many times I strike. You shall also do this.”

Together with her I make fists, and the Lady counts as we forcefully strike our fists against each other.

“Three times altogether”,
says the Lady.
“Half of this is the East.”

Then I see the Balkans and Greece with a large chain around them, and around East Germany, too. It is as if the Lady ties all those countries together with that chain. I see a part still free. In the background I see a figure sitting, leaning his head on his hand. The voice tells me,
“The people who plan and bring about the destruction of the world.”

The victory is Ours

After that I am shown an Eastern scene.

We climb the mountain once more, and again there is a plateau at the top. We stop there.

The Lady points at something lying on the ground.
she says, and she points at the ground. I see a heavy beam lying there which I have to push away from me. Then suddenly I see a cross-beam appearing on it, and together they form a Cross.

Then I look again at the Lady and say, “What am I to call you?”––my spiritual director had ordered me to ask this again. She smiles and gestures as if to say: are they asking that again? And she answers me,
“Just tell them: The Lady.”

And the Lady continues as usual. She points at the beam that has been pushed away and says,
and now she gestures with her hands and fingers, as if everything were flying apart and whirling around. It symbolizes Christendom. The Lady says,
“You shall say this: Christendom, you do not know the great danger threatening you. There is a spirit out to undermine you. But …”
––and the Lady makes a sign of blessing with her hand––
“victory is Ours.”


The Lady continues,
“I am taking you along to show you something.”

Now I see England lying before me. Then it is as if the Lady places her foot on England.

Moving her finger to and fro in warning, she says,
“Why so rigid about everything? Can you not turn towards what is normal?”

Then it is as if she places a very big crown on England, and she says,
“This will also be tampered with.”

Next it is as if the Lady makes little holes in the crown all around, through which she puts ribbons. Now it is as if she fastens all those ribbons to England. Now she again takes her foot away from England and says,
“No, England, these are not your correct politics.”

I suddenly see the King of England before me. It is just as if he turns around very quickly. Above England then, to the side, I see Churchill, too, but only his head.

Then the Lady points someone out to me, and all at once I see a bishop standing there, but not of our Church. I am given to understand: that is the bishop of Canterbury. The Lady looks at him, and she moves her finger to and fro in warning. Then I see a great number of spires appearing in the background. While pointing at them the Lady says,
“There will be changes there.”

But I get the feeling that it is for later on.

Then I see the Pope on our left, with two fingers raised. On the other side, facing him, is the bishop of Canterbury. Beside him, then, yet another clergyman suddenly appears. The latter is wearing a white wig with stiff curls or waves, and he is dressed in a long gown with white bands. Above those heads, then, I see the Lady. She says,

From the side of the English clergy she moves her finger over the heads of the English clergymen and then places it between the two outspread fingers of the Pope.


This scene disappears, and then I see written: ‘51 – 53’. The Lady lets me see this, and suddenly I receive something in my hand. It is as if I have to snatch it from the sky. It comes from very high up. I hear that voice say,
“Meteors––pay attention to them!”

Then the Lady says,
and we go on. The Lady says,
“The fighting in Korea is a sham and the start of great misery.”

Then I see demarcations being made at intervals. Next I see someone sitting, leaning his head on his hand; this person is in deep thought. I am given to understand that it is a Russian head of state. I make him out to be Stalin or Lenin.

“I have warned you against that danger”,
I suddenly hear at my side.

Then I see half of the globe, and I have to look it over. While holding its left edge, so to speak, with my hand, I have to say, “Now I am looking very far and holding it.” Then I have to descend along the sphere at an angle to the right and trace a straight line further on.

This causes me terrible anxiety.


“Let’s go on”,
says the Lady. Now I see the upper part of Italy and have to wrap my hand around it. Then I see southern Italy, and hold the ‚heel’ of Italy, so to speak, tightly with my thumb, as I place my other four fingers on southern Italy. I have to do this. Then I hear the Lady say,
“No, over there things are not at all in order. Where are the encyclicals?”

I then have to make a movement and cross my raised hands over one another. I continuously see empty hands.

Then I see St. Peter’s and hear the Lady say,
“Do you know your power at all? Do you know your doctrine?”

Now she writes ‘Encyclicals’ and says,
“This is good, and do implement it. Let it stream forth to the right and left, upward and downward. Do you realize”
––and she makes a fist––
“that this power has such power?”

Then she lets me see a ‘1’, a ‘2’ and a ‘3’. After this I see a book lying before me. A hand is laid upon it. The Lady says,
“Look at your laws.”

And it is as if she would stretch something. The more she does so, the wider and larger it gets. While doing this the Lady says,
“Know well that your time is here.”


After this she takes me upon a slope and says,
“Urbi et Orbi.”

Then from that slope the Lady looks at St. Peter’s with me, and she says,
“Why so rigid? Make more room!”

Now she takes me into a room and says,
“This is what it has to come to.”

Then I see a sort of oppression and hear,
“From out of all this chaos, a fight will first arise, and only later will there be an upswing.”

Now suddenly great sadness is upon me. As the Lady goes away, she says,
“I shall come again to bring you messages.”

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